Editing Help talk:Citation Style 1 (section)

== Question about a citation using Factiva as an ID value ==

I've encountered at [[List of longest-serving United States mayors]] the following citation:
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<ref>{{Cite news |date=13 April 2015 <!-- 19:37 --> |title=Man believed to be New Jersey's longest-serving mayor dies / BC-US--Obit-Longtime Mayor, US<!-- note: the article with HD "BC-US--Obit-Longtime Mayor, US" has LP "BC-US--Obit-Longtime Mayor,115 [line break] Man believed to be New Jersey's longest-serving mayor dies" and TD starting with "Eds: APNewsNow. [line break] CLIFFSIDE PARK, N.J. (AP) — [...]" --> |publication-place=CLIFFSIDE PARK, N.J. |id={{Factiva|APRS000020150413eb4d0056r}} (IPC: "a", IPD: "{{small|<nowiki>US | Obit | Longtime Mayor | AP-US-Obit-Longtime-Mayor | General news | Sports | College basketball | Obituaries | Men's basketball | Municipal governments | Basketball | College sports | Men's sports | Local governments | Government and politics | Obituary | AP Online Other Sports News | AP Online</nowiki>}}"), {{Factiva|APRS000020150413eb4d0057z}} (IPC: "z", IPD: "{{small|<nowiki>US | Obit | Longtime Mayor | BC-US--Obit-Longtime Mayor | State | College basketball | Men's basketball | Obituaries | Municipal governments | Basketball | Sports | College sports | Men's sports | Local governments | Government and politics | AP Regional State Report - New Jersey | AP Regional State News</nowiki>}}") |agency=Associated Press |mode=cs2}}.</ref>
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I have no idea how the Factiva site looks like as I don't have an account, but is this how the ID parameter should work? [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 20:37, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

:Rule of thumb: nowiki is a sign of ineptitude. The goal is to cite the death of Gerald Calabrese. This does the job simple enough:
::{{cite news |last=Associated Press |date=April 13, 2015 |title=Gerald Calabrese, New Jersey’s Longest-Serving Mayor, Dies at 90 |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/14/nyregion/gerald-calabrese-new-jerseys-longest-serving-mayor-dies-at-90.html |work=The New York Times |access-date=2026-02-08}}
:If you specifically need to cite the AP wire report rather than a newspaper reprint:
::{{cite news |agency=Associated Press |date=April 13, 2015 |title=Man believed to be New Jersey's longest-serving mayor dies |location=Cliffside Park, N.J. |url=https://apnews.com/article/788c07e066e44b93806e579753c139c8 |access-date=2026-02-08}}
:Use the actual headline instead of the wire service transmission code. If you really must use Factiva wire transmission code use this
::{{cite news |agency=Associated Press |date=April 13, 2015 |title=Man believed to be New Jersey's longest-serving mayor dies |url=https://apnews.com/article/788c07e066e44b93806e579753c139c8 |id=Factiva: APRS000020150413eb4d0056r |access-date=2026-02-08}} 
:The IPC (Item Primary Code) and IPD (Item Primary Descriptor) in a public Wikipedia caption is like a chef printing the inventory SKU numbers for the flour and eggs on a restaurant menu. It's maybe useful for the kitchen's internal record-keeping, but it clutters the public citation, nobody wants or needs it. It's like someone went out of their way to make a citation as unnecessarily complicated as possible. -- [[User:GreenC|<span style="color: #006A4E;">'''Green'''</span>]][[User talk:GreenC|<span style="color: #093;">'''C'''</span>]] 06:53, 8 February 2026 (UTC)